Completing the Story of Two Little Jameson Girls, Thanks to the Henry County Genealogy Society

Today I can happily say I can close a mystery of the lives of two little girls from my direct line of the Jameson family. Last February, I first touched on these two, Avis and Lois Jameson, and told why they were such a mystery to the descendants of Carl and Jennie (Walker) Jameson. In August, Tom Jameson out of nowhere, found a picture that most likely is the only remaining picture of these girls. The picture total knocked me off my feet. He said he was going through some of his father's old possessions and came across the picture. Tom had totally forgotten about the picture. The picture surely added to the story.

Earlier this week I received a group of almost unbelievable old obituaries from Jim Rebar of the Henry County Ohio Genealogy Society. I cannot thank Jim and the Society enough for their help with these wonderful new to me (old) sources. Over the next few postings, I will share all of these new findings.

To give the full story, I start with the first part of February's post 'Jesus Loves The Little Children':

The Family of Carl Woodward and Jennie Leuretta (Walker) Jameson
Back in the early 1980's my great grandfather, Hugh Edward Jameson passed away. Hugh was the second son of Carl and Jennie Jameson. Hugh had been working on his and his wife's genealogy for a number of years. Having put together a nice package, almost like a book, to be passed to each of his heirs. When my mother, Karen Ann (Jameson) Traggorth and aunt Marilyn Sue (Jameson) Jones received the package, they quickly found a listing of Carl and Jennie's children. Within the listing, there were two daughters that they had never heard of. Both were shocked, being the family was pretty close and they had never heard of these two little girls. They call their father, Richard Lee Jameson to inquire. My grandfather told them that he knew of the girls and said they died from a childhood sickness that was common in those day (not remembering which one). When my aunt and mother asked why he or my great grandfather had never told them, he responded, that there just was not much to say about the girls.

Joint tombstone of Avis Pearl and Lois Ashley Jameson, McComb Union Cemtery, McComb, Hancock County, Ohio, courtesy of findagrave.com

A few years ago my aunt and mother took a trip together out to northwestern Ohio to visit a number of places from their youth. One stop was to Deshler, Henry County, Ohio. Upon visiting Oakdale Methodist Church, one of the churches that Thomas Jameson had built and where Carl Jameson had preached in for many years. They by chance, ran into a kind lady, Joy Verneil (Dangler) Rayle in the church. Upon talking to Mrs. Rayle, she told them that she too was a Jameson and that she was the daughter of Prudence Vestelva (Jameson) Dangler. Her mother was Hugh's first cousin. My aunt asked her if she know anything of the girls when talking about Carl and Jennie. She told them that her mother had told her this:

"Carl and Jennie had had a very tough time getting over the girls. In those days it was very common to lose children. But the fact that Carl had lost his two daughters in just the course of two days, was unbearable for him. Carl went into a great depression. It was Jennie, that had to sit him down and straighten him out, to get their lives back together. It took her strength, to make the family move on."

The cover page of Jennie Leuretta Jameson's bible

The little girls genealogy information:
Avis Pearl Jameson born September 20, 1896 in Jackson Township, Wood County, Ohio; died December 31, 1900 Continental, Putnam County, Ohio; buried January 3, 1901 McComb Union Cemetery, Pleasent Township, Hancock County, Ohio
Lois Ashley Jameson born August 9, 1898 in Deshler, Henry County, Ohio; died December 30, 1900 Continental, Putnam County, Ohio; buried January 3, 1901 McComb Union Cemetery, Pleasant Township, Hancock County, Ohio

The Picture

The picture sent by Tom Jameson in August, taken shortly before the death of Avis Pearl Jameson and Lois Ashley Jameson with their mother Jennie Leuretta (Walker) Jameson in about 1900

 The Obituary

Publish on January 11, 1901 from The Deshler Flag 

Thou I am not sure who the initials (S.J.C.) was at the bottom of the obituary, the writing shows how devastated the family truly was.

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There is a bright lining to this very sad story in the lives of Carl Woodward Jameson and Jennie Leuretta (Walker) Jameson. If these two little girls had not so tragically passed away, Carl and Jennie may not have continued their family with having their two youngest children, Hugh Edward Jameson and Robert Berg Jameson.

 

The children of brothers Hugh Edward Jameson and Robert Berg Jameson; right to left, Thomas Alan Jameson, Nancy Susan (Jameson) Edminster, and Richard Lee Jameson  

Charlie and Fred, Two Brothers with an Obituary and a Biography

Today when checking the blog's administrative side, I saw that someone was searching for the obituary of Charles Jameson. I am not sure if that was our family's Charles W. Jameson, but I wanted to answer that search. I came across the fact that in the blog, 'Writing Charles W. Jameson's Memoirs' I had already published the obituary. Looking at what I had posted, I saw that I had missed a picture that went along with the obituary. Along with that, I came across another scan that I had must have sent to Tom Jameson month's ago. Tom had asked about any biography that I had on any of the Jameson brothers of the Thomas and Mary Jameson family. This biography, I don't think I have ever posted. As far a can tell, these two brothers were the only two college educated man from the family of the time. I hope you enjoy this bit of insight on these very interesting man.

THE OBITUARY OF CHARLES WILLIAM JAMESON

THE BIOGRAPHY OF FREDERICK BURTRAM JAMESON

written by Prudence Vestelva (Jameson) Dangler

Great biography, Prudence! What better source can you have, but from the memoirs of his very own daughters.

The Newcomer, Or, Not So Newcomers To Our Jameson Family

Back left to right: William Jameson 'Bob' Newcomer, Marcia Ann (Newcomer) Schrader, Franklin H. 'Bud' Bock, Elizabeth Ann 'Betsey' (Bock) Gyengo, William Lewis 'Billy' Newcomer, Barbara Sue 'Barbie' (Bock) Carlis, front left to right: (legs only) Michael Jameson Newcomer, Elizabeth Jean (Gerkin) Newcomer, Kevin Lee Newcomer, Lynne Marie (Newcomer) Davison, Grace Annabelle 'Ann' (Newcomer) Bock, Franklin Daniel 'Frank' Bock, Grace Leverne (Jameson) Newcomer, Karol Grace (Newcomer) Applin; taken in about 1966

I've wanted to write this post ever since I found this picture above in my Great Grandmother, Florence Opel (Mark) Jameson's picture collection. On the back of the picture, Grace clearly labeled all of the people in the picture. It appears that this picture was in a Christmas card or something from the mid 1960's sent to my great grandparents. It also appears by the cuts on the sides of the picture (young Michael only has his legs left today), that my Great Grandmother had this picture in a frame at one time.

Never the less, it appears that Grace and her sister Karis were held as pretty special cousins within the Jameson family. If you look at the side pictures of the blog, there are two difference picture that content Grace and Karis as young girls. The interesting thing about these two old pictures are that they are from two different sides of the Jameson family. The picture that contents Carl Woodward Jameson and his family and part of Charles William Jameson's family comes from my side of the family. The picture which is only of Grace and Karis came from Joy Rayle which came down from her grandfather, Frederick Bertram Jameson's side of the family. Grace and Karis are the only cousins in which I have pictures such as this.

What helped help me with putting this post together, were these obituaries. A few months about, I found that the Monroe County Historic Society collected and listed obituaries from their local area http://www.co.monroe.mi.us/egov/searchobituaries.aspx. Interestingly in Grace's obituary it states that towards the end of her live, she volunteered doing exactly that. The only obituary that the Society could not find from the Newcomer family was that of Patricia Newcomer. I hope you enjoy this blog, as I highly enjoy putting together blogs such as this (putting faces to the information and updating information passed down to me).

The Newcomer family; The Family of Grace Laverne (Jameson) Newcomer:

Grace Laverne Jameson was born May 26, 1895 in Deshler, Barlow Township, Henry County, Ohio; she died July 21, 1975 in Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan; she was buried July 24, 1975 at Roselawn Memorial Park, LaSalle, Monroe County, Michigan; she married Stanley Jacob Newcomer, Sr. (son of Lewis Warren Newcomer and Ada Belle Rauch) on October 17, 1923 in Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio; he was born December 25, 1897 in Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan; he died March 10, 1963 in Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan; he was buried March 12, 1963 at Roselawn Memorial Park, LaSalle, Monroe County, Michigan.

Obituary of Grace Laverne (Jameson) Newcomer, publish in the Monroe Evening News July, 22, 1975 

Stanley Jacob Newcomer, Sr. and his brother Irving Albert Newcomer taken about 1898; courtesy of Paul Coffelt from ancestry.com

Obituary of Stanley Jacob Newcomer, Sr. published in the Monroe Evening News March 11, 1963



Children of Stanley Jacob Newcomer, Sr. and Grace Leverne (Jameson) Newcomer:
Stanley Jacob Newcomer, Jr. born 1922

Grace Annabelle Newcomer born August 28, 1925

William Jameson Newcomer born May 18, 1928





Stanley Jacob Newcomer was born in 1922 in Michigan; he died December 6, 1937 in Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan; he was buried December 8, 1937 at Roselawn Memorial Park, LaSalle, Monroe County, Michigan.



The obituary of Stanley Jacob Newcomer, Jr., published in the Monroe Evening News December 6, 1937

Grace Annabelle Newcomer was born August 28, 1925 in Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio; she married Franklin H. Bock (son of Franklin D. Bock and Lillian G. Guncheon) on December 27, 1947 in Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan; he was born October 21, 1918 in Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan; he died June 27, 1992 in Tecumseh, Leawee County, Michigan

Grace Annabelle Newcomer and Franklin H. Bock's wedding announcement from the Toledo Blade December 29, 1947

Obituary of Franklin H. Bock, publish from the Monroe Evening News June 28, 1992

Children of Franklin H. Bock and Grace Annabelle (Newcomer) Bock:
Elizabeth Ann Bock- born December 6, 1951
Barbara Sue Bock- born July 18, 1953
Franklin Daniel Bock- born September 30, 1956



Elizabeth Ann Bock- born December 6, 1951 married Peter Paul Gyengo born August 21, 1952
        Children:
        Joseph Peter Gyengo- born October 23 1982
        Michael W. Gyengo- born October 4, 1983
        Gena Renee Gyengo- born April 12, 1985 married Stacey Mathis


Barbara Sue Bock- born July 18, 1953 married James Peter Caralis born February 1, 1954
        Children:
        Peter James Caralis- born about 1981 married July 14, 2007 to Kendra Suzanne Waldrep
        Dena G. Caralis- born November 16, 1983
        Katherine Anne Caralis- about about 1986


Franklin Daniel Bock- born September 30, 1956 married July 19, 1986 to Gloria A. Green born January 15, 1958
        Children:
        David J. Bock- born about 1990 married Kaitlynn Taylor born about 1988



William Jameson Newcomer was born May 18, 1928 in Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio; he died Jun 8, 1987 in Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio; he was buried June 11, 1987 at St. Joseph Cemetery, Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan; he married Elizabeth Jean Gerkin (daughter of Theodore Gerkin and Mary Kuebler) on July 15, 1951 in Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio; she was born July 28, 1928 in Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio; she died October 26, 2007 in Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan; she was buried October 31, 2007 at St. Joseph Cemetery, Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan.

Obituary of William Jameson Newwcomer, publish from the Monroe Evening News June 9, 1987

Obituary of Elizabeth Jean (Gerkin) Newcomer, publish in the Monroe Evening News Oct 28, 2007

Children Of William Jameson Newcomer and Elizabeth Jean (Gerkin) Newcomer:

Marcia Ann Newcomer- born April 11, 1952

Patricia Lynne Newcomer- born May 7, 1953

William Lewis Newcomer- born January 15, 1955

Karol Grace Newcomer- born January 21, 1957

Michael James Newcomer- born July 22, 1959

Kevin Lee Newcomer- born October 20, 1960

Lynne Marie Newcomer- born about 1963

(In William Jameson Newcomer's obituaryin 1987 it says he has 7 granchildren at the time of his death; in Elizabeth Jean Newcomers obituary in 2007, it says she has 15 grandchildren. I have only 9 listed at this time.) 

Marcia Ann Newcomer- born April 11, 1952 married William Lewis Schrader born February 28, 1950

        Children:

        Kurt William Schrader- about about 1979

        Paul M. Schrader- about about 1981

Patricia Lynne Newcomer- born May 7, 1953 in Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan; she died July 23, 1958 in Ann Arbor, Washtenaw County, Michigan

William Lewis Newcomer- born January 15, 1955 married Kathy Lynn unknown born June 23, 1957 they are divorced

        Children:

        Ryan Newcomer- born about 1981

        Cory Newcomer- born about 1987

        Erin Newcomer- born about 1989

Karol Grace Newcomer- born January 21, 1957 married Patrick Dale Applin born Nov 30, 1956

        Children:

        Lauren Michelle Applin- born about 1980 married Daniel Scott Vukcevich

        Scott William Applin- born about 1983 married Gail Renee Cousino born about 1981

Michael James Newcomer- born July 22, 1959 married Karen Sue Bogie born October 20, 1961

        Children:

        Brett Suzanne Newcomer- born about 1989

Kevin Lee Newcomer born October 20, 1960 married Anne V. Meier born July 9, 1962

        Children:

        Alexis Meier Newcomer- born about 1996

Lynne Marie Newcomer born about 1963 married Willard Christopher Davison born Jun 23, 1960



Trudy Visited Oak Grove On Monday

I have a easy post today. Trudy McGuire has done all the work on this one for me and the blog. Trudy has become the Jameson's family's foot soldier in Morgan County lately. Sincerely, from myself and the readers of the blog, thank you for all of your hard work, Trudy.

If you were wondering about what the shape of Oak Grove Cemetery is currently in, well here is our Jameson plot there. Everything looks to be in good order. The date of these pictures are from last Monday, October 10, 2011.

A couple of notes that Trudy shared. Number one, I did not realize that John Jameson's engraving was on the back of the same stone of the grave of his siblings, Agnes and Archibold. Now of course, as I have said before, John's body is in New York City where he died. It only makes sence that the family honored him by not buying a new stone, but adding him to the back of the same stone of his brother and sister.  

There is another note that Trudy found that can be seen in the pictures. Trudy states "the double headstone has red flowers on John's side and white on Archibold/Agnes". It also appears in the pictures that flowers are on William and Mary's grave. You can see in the pictures that there are no flowers on the other stones all around our Jameson plot. If it was the cemetery caretakers (the church) placing the flowers, they would be on all of the graves. I wonder who placed the flowers recently on our ancestor's graves?

*****UPDATE, UPDATE, UPDATE*****

I'VE FOUND THE FLOWER LEAVING COOPERATES! THANK YOU JOYCE AND DIANE SCHUMACHER (DESCENDANTS OF CLAUDE ERLES JAMESON'S SIDE) FOR LEAVING THE FLOWERS ON THE GRAVES AT OAK GROVE, FROM ALL THE JAMESON DESCENDANTS

What Came first, the Chicken or the Egg: The Jamesons in America, 1647-1900 or our family records?

This is a story of 'what came first, the chicken or the egg'. To read this blog, I request that you read my past posting, Tom's Got Some Great Questions (in regards to question #3). The question in context is that of the arrival of William Jameson to the Americas from Scotland.

Yesterday, I was doing a little playing around on the internet. I came across an old reference. I had not looked at this reference for a number of years. The reference is that of the book; The Jamesons in America, 1647-1900: genealogiacal records and memoranda, by Ephraim Orcutt Jameson; published by Rumford Press, NH, 1901.

Before I go any further into this story, I suggest all those Jameson's that have written me trying to connect their Jameson family with mine, to read this book. For those Jameson's from our William Jameson family line, I also suggest you get a copy of this book and read it. This book is a very interesting and surprisingly, a near complete book of all of the different Jameson families that were living in the United States as of the year 1900 (1870's-1900). I must say, this is the oldest published book that contants the genealogical list of William Jameson and Mary (Haggerty) Jameson and their children, that I am currently aware of.

picture of E. O. Jameson, the author, from the index of The Jamesons in America, 1647-1900: genealogiacal records and memoranda, by Ephraim Orcutt Jameson; published by Rumford Press, NH, 1901



There are a couple of ways to obtain this book (It is very available to obtain for all who wish). My suggestion is on Heritage Quest. Most Americans have access for free to Heritage Quest from there local public library. All you need to do is have a library card and go to your county libraries webpage and follow the link from your home computer. It's free, you can download, and there are thousands of great old out of print genealogy books to access. You can also buy this book from:

Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Jamesons-America-1647-1900-Genealogical-Memoranda/dp/1120891973

Ebay (on disk currently):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jamesons-America-1647-1900-Genealogy-/200483693618

Another free access:

Allen County, Ohio Public Library submitted to Internet Archive: Ebook and Texts Archieve

http://www.archive.org/details/jamesonsinameric00jame this version is poorly done by a computer and is hard to read.

The Meat

Now back to the story of our part of the book. The short but interesting part of the book falls on pages 546 and 547. There are two very interesting facts that can be found on page 547.

Page 546,  The Jamesons in America, 1647-1900: genealogical records and memoranda, by Ephraim Orcutt Jameson; published by Rumford Press, NH, 1901

Page 547,  The Jamesons in America, 1647-1900: genealogical records and memoranda, by Ephraim Orcutt Jameson; published by Rumford Press, NH, 1901

Items To Note (The Interesting Parts) From The Pages Above:
Item 1: "Mr. Hagerty, Mrs. Jameson's father, was in the War of 1812, and probably was killed, Aug. 16, 1812, at Hull's surrender of Detroit, Mich."

Item 2: "Mr. Jameson came to this country in 1817, leaving a brother, Archibald Jameson, in Scotland." {Tom, you know where I am going with this one!}

Reference:
E.O. Jameson lists on page 547 "The Sears Genealogy, page 600". I have a big problem with this reference. The only reference that was in existence in 1900 that the author could have been using was: The Decendants of Richard Sares (Sears) of Yarmouth, Mass, 1638-1888 : with an appendic containing some notices of other families of the name Sears, by Samuel Pearce May, published by J. Munsell, Albany, NY , 1899. Below is the page that I believe E.O. Jameson references:

page 600, The Decendants of Richard Sares (Sears) of Yarmouth, Mass, 1638-1888 : with an appendic containing some notices of other families of the name Sears, by Samuel Pearce May, published by J. Munsell, Albany, NY , 1899.

As you can see there is nothing about the Jameson's other then the mention of Thomas Jameson and Mary E. (Sears) Jameson. So, where did this information come from of the family of William Jameson?

Is This Family Legend?

Item #1 in Detail:

Thanks to the work of my great grandfather, Hugh Edward Jameson and his relatives, I hold many copies of the Jameson records in my possession. Item #1 deals with the information from the Haggerty family. The records passed down to me say only one thing of the parents of Mary (Haggerty) Jameson. "Haggerty died serving under Hull in the Battle of Detroit ". It is hard to tell when Hugh put together his records. Most letters corresponing between Hugh and his relatives, date between 1957 to about 1972. An interesting note on the family of the Haggerty's; years ago the Mormon records of christening of Baltimore County, Maryland listed the mother of Mary Haggerty as Martha (nee Richmond) Haggerty. I, nor any other genealogist that I have know, have ever found a record of service for Mr. Haggerty during the War of 1812 from the state of Maryland. It was not till the close comparison of the 1810 US Census of Baltimore County, Maryland, did we get our first guess at the husband of Martha (Richmond) Haggarty, who appears to be Thomas Haggerty. He was the only man from the area of Ellicott Mills (now Ellicott City, Maryland) that could match the father (and family) of Mary (Haggarty) Jameson and husband of Martha Richmond. There still today have been no solid references that list this man as the father of this family. So how did Mr. E.O. Jameson find this little tidbit of information of William's father-in-law. He either had to have been told this from a families legend/ folklore or he had found some long lost record that no other descendant of this family have found on a father-in-law of a Jameson for a book only on the Jameson's. So where did this come from. I go back to the statement, what came first, the chicken or the egg.

Item #2 in Detail:
This detail is a bit more of a direct issue to this blog and our Jameson family. This detail is also why I request that the reader read the past blog that asked the question on William Jameson's arrival. Until today when doing the background research for this blog, I had never noticed the date of 1817 as of any importance of a year for the Jameson family. Today I found in thie writings wrote by Prudence (Jameson) Dangler on her great grandfather, who she listed his year of immigration as 1871 (then hand corrected to the year 1817). Prudence's work appears to closely reference earlier writings by Bessie E. (Jameson) Wolcott. No where in any part of Hugh Jameson's work does the year 1817 appear?

Now reading the page 547 we see that there is more addition information on the family of Cecil Welby Jameson then any others of his brothers or sisters. It appears that the informant to E. O. Jameson of these details might have been Cecil. If this is so, this raises one more question. Cecil is the same person that wrote the letter to Robert B. Jameson that is the basis of question #3 of my past blog 'Tom Has Some Great Questions'. Why would Cecil have left that bit of information out and added other information on the early Jameson family of America? Once again was this date a family legend/ folklore? What is going on here, what came first, our family records or this book?

The only thing I take away from all of this is, don't believe family folklore without being able to reference it and prove it. On the other side, the next time I find myself at the US National Archives in Washington, DC, I think I will start searching the year 1817 for the arrives on the James River. Are these bits of details 110 plus year old family legends?

I will leave this blog with a few big questions and will move to more stable ground on my next posting??????????????????????????????????????????????

Trudy McGuire Is On The Hunt in Morgan County

I wanted to share a fine email that I receive last week from Trudy McGuire. She has been helping with working on the Jameson line back in Morgan County and the areas around. She talks about a number of descendants of William H. and Mary Jane (Shuster) Jameson. Mainly in regards to the children of Elza Elmer and Margaret May (Kysor) Jameson from the Zanesville area.

Jameson/Vorhies Family (Pictures of Headstones)
 
Hi Skip,
 
I finally made a trip to a few Cemeteries in Morgan County today. 
 
Attached (I hope), are a few pictures. I found the Wm H Jameson headstone in the Pennsville Cemetery, Nellie & Arthur Vorhies is located in McConnelsville Cemetary and my Uncle Elza (Mom's brother) & Laura Vorhies is located in Pisgah Cemetery. I hope to check out the Oak Grove location you mentioned and have a couple others in Morgan and Noble Counties and one in Bristol Township. I was unable to locate great grandmother Mary J Scott. I am pretty sure I have seen it but may have to ask some of my older cousins for assistance. Also, due to the headstones facing West, some of the older ones are almost unreadable. On the bottom of William's, I could make out 59y 2mo 8dys but there is some 'script' beneath that. I could not read it but perhaps with a rubbing, I could. I have never done a rubbing, so not sure if there is special paper and chalk for the process. Do you know? No other wording on William's stone and no family around it that I could see.
 
I still want to visit the Oak Grove Cemetery you mentioned and there are a couple others I want to check out. One is in Young Hickory and the other is Rosehill or Rose Hill in Muskingum County. My Great Uncle Elza (Aunt May) Jameson are in Rosehill. I met two of his children (at least remember them) Dick and Helen. I went to Delmer's funeral with my Mom and Uncle Roy but other than that, never met him. Dick has a Son that lives in Dublin, OH. I met him at the Funeral Home when Aunt May passed away. Uncle Elza worked in Pottery for about 40 years and Crocheted for a hobby. I found through Ancestry.com, an article and picture of him in the Zanesville Times Recorder (Newspaper). It was about his Crocheting. He said he was taught to do this by his Mother!!
 
Skip, I will write more later and include info about my family. Hope you can open these pictures.  
Cousin Trudy 

 

 

 

 

 

The Grave of William H. Jameson: Pennsville Cemetery, Penn Township, Morgan County, Ohio; courtesy of Trudy McGuire

 

 

 

 

 

The Grave of Nellie Melvina (Jameson) and Arthur Presley Vorhies: McConnelsville Cemetery, McConnelsville, Morgan County, Ohio; courtesy of Trudy McGuire

 

 

 

 

 

Grave of Elza Herbert and Adda Laura (Dailey) Vorhies: Pisgah Cemetery, McConnelsville, Morgan County, Ohio; courtesy of Trudy McGuire